Baron von Keller

Baron von Keller Unwarn Request

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Your In-game name: Dr Baron von Keller 

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:441664914

 

Reason of the warning: FailRP [Tier 1] Slaying people`s Tires

Date you were warned on: 01.07.2020

Admin who warned you (In-game name / Steam name/ Steam ID): Daniel Barberi / STEAM_0:1:76473283 / [IM]DanielBarberi

 

Explain the situation of your warning from your point of view in detail: I was playing as a german citizen and i was in possession of a knife. I was trying to cross the street in front of the casino, when a car came along which nearly run me over. As a act of revange i waited until the car was stationary. Eventually the car stopped and i used my chance and slashed the tires of the vehicle. Shortly afterwards a admin [i believe accidentally] killed me by using his admin powers. After i respawned i was brought to the RS roof and warned for failrp. 

Do you think your warning was justified: No, since i had a justified reason to cut the tires because the car almost killed me. 

Why should you be unwarned: I am a old player on the server, i was the Co of a regiment currently im part of the Gestapo. I do believe that i collected much knowlege about the server and espacially about the rules. In this case i believe that the admin made a small mistake by warning me for that. If people are popping tires for literally no reason then it is considered as failrp, but in my case i had a justified reason to act like this. That is why i think the warn should be removed.  

 

Any kind of evidence: Unfortunately not since my shadow play was not active. 

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You were chasing ORPO, running and constantly screaming "MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION" in a mingy way, going from the road to the sidewalk over and over and then I saw you going behind a white car and with a knife and you slayed one of the tires and then run away while screaming again. Daniel Warm was driving that car and he tried to stop you with his physicsgun and I ended up taking you with me. I'm not surprised they almost run you over after you kept on running around like that.

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I was there and I agree with Daniel Barberi's evaluation, plus the "Admin tools kills" was Ludwig and he completely apologised as he was catching you with a phys gun cause you were also running under gunpoint from PD when they asked you to stop.

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When i encoutered OrPo i said "May i ask a question" but not in a mingy way to report the car which almost run me over. However OrpO did not care and responded to the call. 

 

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WW2-Server Manager

WW2-Staff Supervisor 

WW2-Event Planner

Höherer SS- und Polizeiführer [SS-Obergruppenführer]

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Well daniel has a Pointyou where warned for fail rp, but lucky you dint get for Nlr to 

So why stand in front of road.  in the first place.

 

 

 

If you cant handle the reality to serious, then dont expect  to grow up.

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What do u mean NLR ?, i dont understand ur point. The scenario had nothing to do with NLR. I was killed by Staff and then i respawned and i was brought to the RS roof. 

 

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WW2-Staff Supervisor 

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How come that you are in such a denial of what happened. You've an admin and a moderator that saw what happened. If those two staff members saw what really happened then it have to be true. Why would staff even lie in this kind of situation. I

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Just to help with this case I will be giving my full perception of the whole event including what my character was doing at the time:

I was playing as an Unterwachtmeister of the ORPO and we were doing breaching training in the slums.

We were then told by RSHA that there was criminal activity at the bridgehouse, we went over.

When we were there we were told they moved to Old Casino

We ran from Bridgehouse to Old Casino and by the Round About next to PD I saw a fully parked white car and two citizens.

One citizen infront of three PD members had taien out a knife and slashed the rear right wheel which was on the curb.

All three PD members thrned to him and ATLEAST MYSELF AS MY CHARACTER said "stop right there you are under gunpoint"

The citizen then preceeded to run past the only ORPO member not showing his gun and then ran to near the wall of the PD going towards the entrance.

At that point Barbari and Ludwig as Admins (Barbari on SOD and Ludwig as Meister) had grabbed the citizen with a phys gun, Barbari letting go of the citizen and with that Ludwig accidently hitting the citizen against the car and killing him. (This is how I know this unban request is the right one for the story as he said admin killed him with phys gun).

At that point I carried on with my Roleplay as normal, as Barbari took the incident and used his judgement.

I was not there when the car was moving so I have no clue whether that is the case ( and that is for Baron to prove, as during unban request its on the burden of the person banned to provide information to the case ).

All I know is what I saw, and that is what I saw and so I feel the Ban is justified on what I saw. If you believe it is wrong that is your opinion but please provide evidence to that, however I will be asking Ludwig to comment on this case too.

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After i slashed the tires i was immediatley detain by a admin (and killed) so it doesnt make sense that i was undergunpoint. Also it is a unwarn request not a unban request. And i still dont get ur point, if u slash someones tires as a act of revange how is that fail rp mate ?. Also the RSHA call did not refer to me. 

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12 minutes ago, Baron von Keller said:

if u slash someones tires as a act of revange how is that fail rp mate ?

The whole point is that you need to provide evidence is was an act of revenge

13 minutes ago, Baron von Keller said:

After i slashed the tires i was immediatley detain by a admin

As I saw it was 5 seconds before you were phys gun'd by an admin, as you were running under gunpoint, please provide evidence against that please

 

And I didn't see it was a unwarn request and not an unban request

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Denied

The brief conversation we had is different to this request in regard to your statement, and that of the staffs. As no formal evidence has been issued by either party, I must side with my staff otherwise the whole premise of staff making their own valid decisions is lost. 

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