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Marc Heinrich - Unban Request

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Your In-game name: Marc Heinrich

Your Steam ID:  STEAM_0:0:11101

 

Reason of the ban: FailRP Tier 2

Date you were banned on: 12/05/2020

Duration of ban: 1 day

Admin who banned you (In-game name / Steam name/ Steam ID): Daniel Barberi

 

Explain the situation of your ban from your point of view in detail: I was taken hostage, as you do. The hostage taker asked me to drop my weapons, I complied. While he was looking down picking my weapon up (gun aimed at the floor) I then proceeded to shackle him. However, shackles are normally quite laggy and you have to click multiple times, a split second before he was shackled. Literally a millisecond before he then put his gun up. 

Do you think your ban was justified: Absolutely not

Why should you be unbanned: It was not a fair case on both sides, Daniel decided to take a very bias opinion it seemed. I am not to fault if the shackles are a little behind. I even offered to pay compensation to the hostage and Daniel just completely ignored that and din't ask if thats what the hostage taker wanted. 

 

Any kind of evidence: https://gyazo.com/9f269942b95bc3cf872ee25f823cf823    I can provide further evidence if needed (Of the all situation)

Additional information: Daniel was quite disrespectful, saying my evidence was a complete waste of time under his breath.

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2 minutes ago, Daniel Barberi said:

Once again you refuse to show the full evidence. This is what happened: https://streamable.com/h8913e

I can provide further evidence if needed (Of the all situation)"  

Obviously my POV was different hence why I said it was unfair on both sides

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I was told that even if they are picking up a gun, must like the rule of shackles, they still in RP have the gun pointed at you and therefore he still gun pointed you and you should have been unable to shackle him, I do understand why Barberi gave you this fail RP ban rankly - Amtsleiter Dr. Lewic Fischerman

 

This is an -1 from me

 

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1 minute ago, JTA said:

I was told that even if they are picking up a gun, must like the rule of shackles, they still in RP have the gun pointed at you and therefore he still gun pointed you and you should have been unable to shackle him, I do understand why Barberi gave you this fail RP ban rankly - Amtsleiter Dr. Lewic Fischerman

I always thought they have to physically have a gun pointed at you but...

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5 minutes ago, Koauts Beghemot said:

-1

exactly what JTA, best youtuber ever, said.
Just cause he is taking the gun from the floor, that dosen't mean you can shackle him as in RP you have a gun pointed at your brain.

I don't see anything saying you can't do that in the rules section

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 -1

FearRP is not just  "If someone has a gun to you" or not. It's based on if you would realistically fear for your live in the RP situation you are currently facing and that fear would then influence your actions. In that specific situation, after seeing that video clips, it is seemingly obvious that if he wanted to, he could have killed you in a second. Even if the gun "was pointed at the ground" millimeters away from you. You should have feared for your life, your actions were not realistic. 

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21 minutes ago, Rosenberg said:

 -1

FearRP is not just  "If someone has a gun to you" or not. It's based on if you would realistically fear for your live in the RP situation you are currently facing and that fear would then influence your actions. In that specific situation, after seeing that video clips, it is seemingly obvious that if he wanted to, he could have killed you in a second. Even if the gun "was pointed at the ground" millimeters away from you. You should have feared for your life, your actions were not realistic. 

Maybe not realistic but like I said, I would've given compensation. I don't think a ban was necessary 

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-1

He was clearly gp you and the  ban was 100% justified. I also don't think that it was a biased sit since "giving compensation for a hostage" is not a reason to break the rules, and I also understand why he didn't think it was necessary to see the video from your point of you since this is a very very clear case of failrp. 

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-1

This unban request should not even exist. You broke FearRP and fucking shackled someone under gunpoint.

It is clear that you don't understand that what you did was completely fucked and making an unban request just made you look stupid. I see why you may FEEL like it was unjustified, but you broke a major rule.

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Denied

As many have said, and the evidence shows, you were still under GP, moved under GP, drew a weapon [your shackles] under GP, and cuffed him while under GP, this is against the rules and the warn and the ban will remain. 

As stated as well, if you are under GP by 1 person, and they swap to shackles, GP continues, same if they are picking up your weapon, but either way, the gun was still on you so that doesn't even matter. Read our rules, and see you later today. 

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